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New Haven Pizza, Part Two: Sally's Apizza



dynamic duo Sally's Apizza and Frank Pepe's Pizzeria Napoletana were the two stops Slice made during the Pizza Club road trip to New Haven, Conn., on Saturday. Plenty of pizza was ordered from both venerable establishments. Above left is a large mozzarella pie from Sally's; above right, a large mozzarella pie (background) and a large white-clam pie (foreground) from Pepe's. Both pizzerias are so popular that lines form down the block, as can be seen below (Sally's left, Pepe's right).

words by Adam K. :: photographs by Adam K. and Amanda G. | When last we left you, we had just finished eating at Frank Pepe's, one of New Haven's storied pizzerias. The folks at Pepe's showed us a good time and we ate lots and lots of pizza. "Lots and lots" is an understatement. We were gorged. As in eyes bigger than stomachs. Frankly, we were worried that we wouldn't have room for Sally's Apizza, which is just a couple blocks west of Pepe's on Wooster Street. But, we figured, we'd have to wait on line at Sally's and would be hungry by the time we got in.

On line by 4:40 p.m., we waited until a few minutes after 5. That's when someone flipped the lock, opened the door, and asked, "Anyone with reservations? Come on." So there is a secret reservation system. Slice had heard from Ed Levine when we ran into him at Totonno's that there were special times you could call to get reservations, and this confirmed it. A party of 10 jumped ahead by virtue of its reservations, but since we were the second party in line, we were among the first seating of the day.

What greeted us was a charmingly rec-roomish wood-paneled dining area. With its gilt-frame photos, big comfy vinyl booths, and 1960s light fixtures, it looked like the neighborhood pub your gramps took you to when he had to watch you for the day but still wanted a beer with his buddies (think Archie Bunker's Place, or just take a gander at the photo at left). Some folks in our party felt the decor left something to be desired; this reporter felt right at home. But we weren't there for the atmosphere—we were there for the pizza, and after about 10 minutes, our waiter came over to apprise us of the daily specials and take our order.

Still stuffed from the fare at Pepe's, we figured we'd go for three medium pies: one with mozzarella (or, "mootz"), one white clam, and one from the specials menu—topped with thinly sliced potato and onion. Our waiter seemed disappointed with the order, advising us that one medium would feed two people at most and that we had a party of 10. "We've eaten a lot today. I think we'll be fine with the three mediums to start. We'll order more if we're still hungry."

Uh uh. Big no. We were told that the lag time between ordering and receiving was such that it wouldn't be prudent to employ this strategy. After a little more back and forth with the waiter on how much pizza would feed how many people, we stuck to our guns—and with our original order. To that we added a round of beers for half the table, an assortment of sodas, and water all around.

I don't know if it was at this point that our waiter deemed us less than human, but we might as well get this out of the way: If it's good service you want, you should not sally forth to Sally's Apizza. From this point on, we might as well have been dead to the staff at this place. Pizza persona non grata. Public-pizza enemies Nos. 1 through 10. You get the picture.

It was hot as the devil in the front of the dining room (you can see how sapped the gang was at right), and it took about fifteen minutes before the drinks arrived. One pitcher of water for ten folks and only eight glasses. Numerous requests for additional glasses were met with complete stonewalling at best and silent contempt at worst—all while the table of what appeared to locals behind us had no trouble getting many rounds of orange sodas. At one point, one of our normally mild-mannered pizza club members grumbled, "This goddam pizza better be f**kin' good, 'cause this goddam service f**kin' sucks."

Did I mention it was hot in there? The weird thing was that when you ventured to the curiously secure bathrooms, it was icy cold near the oven. (They must use the majority of the aircon power to keep the kitchen staff comfortable at the expense of the patrons.)


But enough grumbling. The pizza was sublime. The mozz pie (above) was consistently thin and crisp and gained an interesting texture from a scattering of cornmeal on the bottom. We imagine Sally's uses the cornmeal to keep the pie from sticking to the peel as they slide it into the oven. Absent were the puffy doughy regions that were evident at Pepe's. A member of our group said he thought that Pepe's was great New Haven pizza, but that this pie was like "gourmet New Haven pizza—a notch above." As at Pepe's, it seemed the oil had again separated from the cheese and had helped almost "fry" it on top, turning it golden-brownish orange (above and right).

The clam pie, too, was good, but consensus was that Pepe's, with its whole clams, was better. And the potato-and-onion pie was delicious—crisp on the bottom (crust) and top (thinly sliced potato) and spiked with rosemary and oregano.

After eating, we were eager to leave. It was just too hot, we were too stuffed, and we were tired from digesting the copious amount of clams, cheese, and crust in our stomachs. Again, it was next to impossible to get the waiter's attention. We eventually had to get up and grab someone to come bring us the check, but not after we considered trying the old dine and dash. I mean, heck, they weren't paying attention to us anyway, so why not? But we at Slice are upstanding citizens, and we settled up what we owed and left without incident.

It was at that point that the Cat Price guys came by, camera in hand, to get our thoughts on the experience. In a nutshell: Pepe's for clam pies, Sally's for mozz; Pepe's for friendly welcoming service, Sally's if you want to feel like a Republican delegate in New York City for the GOP convention (or a New York–pizza advocate in New Haven).

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17 Comments:

Even though it was hot as hell Sally's is etched in my mind as Pizza Purgatory because of the lousy service.

This pizzaman is glad "the Slice" finally made it to New Haven to sample pizza at Pepe's and Sally's on Wooster Street.

I am not surprised "the Slice" added more fuel to the fire over the endless debate as to which pizzeria, Pepe's or Sally's, has the superior pizza.

My feeling though is the experience was typical. Pepe's staff are friendly and outgoing, Sally's service leaves much to be desired.

If you love pizza, you got to make the trip to New Haven to check out Wooster Street!

Pizza on Earth...

Sally's - Pizza is awesome!.......however, the three hours it takes to consume one is totally mindblowing not to
mention the extremely poor service. There we were waiting on line when a group sauntered right in with "reservations".
We were seated in 20 minutes after that. We placed our order 30 minutes later. Waited another 20 minutes for our drinks. While all this was going on the special table with reservations where just finishing their meal. During all this my Bronx blood was just nearing the boiling point! Meltdown occurred when one of the group with the reservations approached our table and told us not to fret -
our pizza would soon arrive. I won't go back to that "joint"
for a free meal.

So, you didn't make it to the Pizza House (see my original gargantuan posting in the New Haven Pizza Club archive page). Well... I knew it was a long shot. Next time any of you are in NH, though, you should check it out. Corner of Edgewood and Howe. No waiting in line. Brilliant deliciousness.

Andy: We had Pizza House in the address book and on our minds, unfortunately there wasn't room in our stomachs afterward. We were starving by the time we got to Pepe's and ate too much there. It was all we could do to even get a few slices of Sally's awesome pies down. We still want to try Pizza House and Modern Pizza, so a future New Haven trip is in order.

Sally's and Pepe's are the way to go on your first official pilgrimage to New Haven. Next time, may I recommend the following: Modern Apizza (the third jewel in the New Haven pizza crown; on State Street), Roseland (just past the Yale Bowl), Ernie's (on Whalley Avenue; get the onion and garlic - phenomenal), and Tolli's in adjoining East Haven (for spinach and bean). Believe me, you've only just scratched the surface of the greatest pizza city in America (I know, I know, there's a NYC bias among your constituents, but I've lived in both places and, when it comes to "apizza," I don't think it's even close). Best, G.

Having grown up in Connecticut, I have to say the best pizza in the state (and in the nation) is at Modern Apizza on State Street. Pepe's and Sally's are where we take our visitors when they want a slice of CT life; Modern is where we eat when we want the best pie.

Easier parking, shorter lines, better pizza.

Hey Sliceny,

Why don't you have any Chicago Pizzerias on here? Home Run Inn, Giordano's, Father & Son's...

I love these pizzas!! I live in FLorida now and will have Home Run Inn Pizzas shipped here!

Thanks,
Delia

The best Pizza I have ever had was in Chicago. On a scale of one to ten it was a 2.5 I have lived in NYC and had Pizza there. Also very good for Pizza. I would rate the best there a 1.5. I live in Baltimore now and the best here gets a solid 1.

I grew up in West Haven and was raised on Apizza. Zuppardi's Ah beetz heavy on the burnt mozz as well as Pepe's and Sally's. Apizza from any of these is a solid ten! I have learned to judge Pizza as a lower form of Apizza.

Pepe's, Sally's and the other great Apizza joints in south central CT should warn customers that once they eat Apizza all other Pizza will taste like chalk and cardboard.

Sally's is the best pizza I have ever had, hands down. Supposedly there is a place in Detroit called "Bubby's" that is better. Can someone please comment on this?

I spent seven years in New Haven in the 70's and have great memories of both Sally's and Pepe's. So on a trip back east last year, I detoured to New Haven to try both and settle the debate in my mind. I went to Sally's and Pepe's on different days, so as not to lose my appetite for the later visited establishment. The clams on Pepe's pizza were excellent but the crust was too doughy. Sally's pepperoni and mozzarella pizza gave me the orgasmic pleasure I remember 30 years ago. Yes it's maddening to have the "regulars" with reservations jump in front of you, while you are begging Flo for a seat and a spot in that magical coal fired oven. Please make another trip to New Haven and go to Sally's when you are hungry, bite into the piping hot crust with burnt bits and you will also conclude that it the best pizza in the US.

As to the secret reservations at Sally's I know that at Pep's there is a number you can call to order take out. Yet this number is only known by a few select people (mostly family and close friends). Also they change the number regularly to avoid too many people getting their hands on it. Talk about sneaky!

Sallys is better than Pepe's by a hair. A white fresh tomato and garlic pizza from Sallys is unbeatable. Onion pizza is also great. You can't complain about the service from Sallys, you have to know what to expect. They've got one or two waiters at a time, and they get you your drinks and pizza with no sugar-coating...they've got a lot of people to satisfy and their number one priority is efficiency. I find ithe service great, in a strange kind of way. Modern pizza is number three in New Haven with some great pies as well. But Sallys will always hold a place in my heart as the top pizza in New Haven, and for me, the best pies that I've ever had. Awesome baby!!!!

Took literally took two hours to get pizza after ordering. Service was terrible, unfriendly, inattentive and could care less whether we were satisified or helped. Bathrooms were filty and ill-equiped. Kitchen which is close by to the bathrooms did not look clean. Pizza was great but not worth the aggravation. We were surpised that the health inspector allows these conditions. Modern Pizza is just a good and the service is friendly and usually attentive

@discoparty -- the service there seems to be intentionally bad. the wait every step of the way makes no sense (huge oven). the waiters are also impatient and unhelpful. that said, the pizza is good enough that i can't take it off my list and will not hesitate to go if i'm in the area and in a patient mood.

Although I have failed to review either on my site (worstpizza), I did both places within 2 days while visiting Yale and Mohegan Sun. Pepes, had just as disappointing of a staff as Sally's. I asked for no ice in my coke, and when they brought it with ice I asked her to remove the ice, and she put it by the oven to melt. Total lack of class. I don't care how busy you are, you still need to be decent.

I did not like sally's at all! My family loved it, but I was freaking hot, uncomfortable and they didn't give plates! If I return to the area I will go back to Pepe's.

I sincerely hope you didn't leave a tip at Sally's. Or better, I'd of left a quarter. Point made!

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