Pizza in a Cone: Crispycones
Editor's note: This is the second of two reports today about pizza in a cone. Here's the first: Pizza in a Cone: Kornet Pizza

This photo shows the original cardboard cone-holders. Newer holders are pyramidal, smaller, and use less cardboard.
Anytime you publish something about pizza cones on the web, Nir Adar will see it.
That's how I found myself in the prep kitchen of a food-photography studio in Chelsea this past Tuesday. Adar, the man behind pizza-in-a-cone venture Crispycones, has been following Slice since the first time I mentioned the food product on the site. With a Google alert set up to monitor "pizza cone" or variations thereof, he saw a recent post about the opening of Kornet Pizza in Overland Park, Kansas.
In that post and follow-up comments, I express my desire to try the cones several times, and Adar, picking up on this, extended an invitation to do just that.
Yeah, I know. It's rare that I accept invitations to try products, preferring to forge my own opinion away from the corrupting influence of marketeers, but as I've said, I've been wanting to try a pizza cone for about four years.
As it turns out, four years is almost the entire lifetime of the product. In fact, by coincidence I was visiting Adar and his business partner, Manny Kivowitz, on a rather auspicious day. To hear Adar tell it, it was five years ago on Tuesday (January 29) that pizza in a cone was conceived, when he dreamed it up watching New Yorkers shuffle along the sidewalks here, scarfing food on the street. The concept, he says, addresses the recent shift in how people consume food outside the home. With more people gorging on the go, Adar says he recognized a dearth of truly hand-held foods—foods that, by his definition, could be held and consumed entirely in one hand.
Enter the Pizza Cone
Were it only as simple as the subhead above. Adar wants you to know that all those pizza cones you may have seen on the webcropping up first in Italy, then traveling to the Mideast and Asiathose are not Crispycones.
According to Adar, he first brought the concept to Konopizza, the Italian company that would go on to bring the world the cones you've already seen. After showing the company the process, and on the verge of signing contracts, Adar said, the company told him it was no longer pursuing the ideaonly to release a similar conical product months later.
Adar seems to have taken it in stride, however. Unphased, he went back to the drawing board and worked on improving his original method. "I realized I didn't have the perfect product back then," he said. "Now I do."
The Crispycones Adar is making, he says, have a thinner wall than the first-generation cones and use a process that creates a moisture-protective barrier that keeps the dough from becoming soggy.
When I walked in, a warm cone, sans filling, was there to greet me, sitting in a little cardboard caddy. "Take a bite of just the cone itself," Adar said. "It just came out of the microwave, but notice how crisp it is."
Yes, a microwave. The Crispycone shells are produced by a baker in California, where they're parbaked. And though they're machine-produced, they have the look of the handmade about them. They are then frozen, to be finished off in a microwave at point of sale. Pizza fans familiar with microwave reheats know what the device does to crust, but amazingly, the Crispycone, true to its name, actually becomes crisp, or perhaps retains its crispness upon nuking.
My first question was, Yeah, but what crazy stuff do you have to put in the dough to achieve that? According to Adar, "It stays crisp without any of the weird stuff you wouldn't want to eat in it."
Taking him at his word, then, you'd have to admit that the cone is pretty damn ingenious. It's crisp, has a slightly flaky texture and a buttery taste with just a hint of sweetness, and it's easy to imagine the standard cone conveying fillings other than pizza components. And that's the point. The cone is merely a vehicle, Adar says, and there are recipes for chicken teriyaki cones, breakfast cones, salad cones, and deli conesthe lot of them designed to appeal to on-the-go eaters in general rather than just pizza eaters specifically.
Yeah, But How Does It Taste?
I've gone over the crust, which was surprisingly good. I honestly don't think you'd know it came out of a microwave if you weren't told or didn't witness it cooking.
The fillings were fairly standard pizza fareon par with what you'd get a corner slice joint. This might be owing to the fact that Adar had cooked them up right there for the cone I tried.
Whether that will change when these go into wider production is another matter, as Adar and partner Kivowitz tell me that some major chains are interested in the product and that they're also looking at ramping up a production facility to bring these to the grocery store freezer section. (Crispycones doesn't plan on opening dedicated stores at this point; Adar and Kivowitz say they want to keep a tighter rein on standards than a traditional franchising model would allow.)
Eating the cone was not unlike eating an ice cream cone once the crowning scoop has been licked away. Except for the dripsthere were none. I wouldn't say the eating experience was entirely without mess. As you can imagine, when biting into the edge of the cone, the space between your upper lip and nose is likely to take a dip into the filling, so you have to watch that. But it's hardly any messier than eating a well-topped hot dog, another hand food that the pizza would hope to bit some market from.
Will the cones catch on? That's anyone's guess. Word is among blogs I've read that the first-gen cones enjoyed fad status in Seoul a summer or two ago, and they've already spread to Japan, Russia, Iran, and Indiaall of which gives Adar hope that that first wave has done much of his marketing for him.
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Pizza in a Cone: Kornet Pizza
All pizza cone coverage on Slice
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19 Comments:
That looks incredibly disgusting. The concept, the ingredients - its all incredibly disgusting.
And why does pizza need to be cone shapped? To make it easier to eat? This seems like it would make it more difficult. If you can't fold a slice of pizza in half and eat it while you're walking down the street, you probably don't deserve to eat pizza.
I wish someone would put this much thought into trying to create a good pizza, not a novelty item. We need less gimicks like this, and more good tasty food. Less mass produced food, and more mom-and-pop shops.
This looks like it is maybe a step above the "cheeseburger in a can". Maybe.
Soup_Dumpling at 3:14PM on 01/31/08
while not something I would obsess over for four years (although I am glad Adam finally got a pizza cone, and the past two days I have often thought of cheesburger in a can), I have to ask, Soup_Dumpling, how do you think the xiǎolóngbāo/soup dumpling came into existence? I would guess through imagination and experimentation, a novelty item that became popular, and now 100 or so years later they are known around the world as a part of "authentic" Shanghai cuisine.
I bet the gelatin that goes into the dumplings before steaming doesn't look that appetizing either.
I would much rather have a soup dumpling than a pizza cone but I found the posts pretty fascinating.
intheyearofthepig at 3:45PM on 01/31/08
I agree. This is interesting in the same way that spam (in a can) is interesting. Interesting does not equate to "good" in either case. Though "sacrilegious" doesn't fully describe this, it's the word that comes to mind when I think of consuming the product. Pizza is something you just don't mess with.
merriman at 3:58PM on 01/31/08
Did you burn your nose? I probably would.
Lauren Krueger at 4:11PM on 01/31/08
Yeah, no thank you. I picture myself biting into that and then everything squirting out of the bottom all over me. I agree with the first guy, are we too lazy that we can't fold a slice of pizza in half?
phattymatt at 4:14PM on 01/31/08
I would try it for the novelty, but truthfully, it doesn't look like it could compete with my local slice joint. Was this something that was missing from the world? Were people really saying, "It's just too difficult to hold this slice of pizza. There must be another way"?
Kerosena at 4:24PM on 01/31/08
It's awesome! Would I eat it every day? No. Will it replace pizza? No. But it's a fun product and a nice break from the usual.
In the early Slice days, I took a very purist stance regarding pizza (and New York pizza specifically), so maybe I've attracted an audience that hates on stuff like this, but it makes me sad that so many people are negging the cone before trying it or who just can't get enthused about something new like this. I think intheyearofthepig has a great attitude about it. I mean, if people can get jazzed about molecular gastronomy and foams and the anti-griddle, then why not this?
And, for the record, I did not burn my nose.
Adam Kuban at 4:25PM on 01/31/08
I feel like it would be very hard for the cheese to be dispersed throughout the whole cone, and not in a big lump either at the top or the bottom.
phattymatt at 4:29PM on 01/31/08
Good point, Phattymatt. The cheese and sauce were kinda mixed up for homogeneity and then some extra cheese was added on top (but didn't really melt well in the microwave, I'll admit).
Adam Kuban at 4:35PM on 01/31/08
intheyearofthepig,
I don't think you can even compare the Almighty Xao Long Bao to the Pizza Cone. I have nothing against experimentation or things that are "not authentic". In fact, most of what I eat probably isn't considered authentic. What I am against is more of this fast food garbage that is being shoved down our throats. This pizza cone is the equivalent to Dunkin Donuts, Chicken McNuggets, and all the other mass produced processed garbage that seems to be around these days. Its not the pizza in a cone that I find offensive - If someone took a good slice of pizza and rolled it into a cone shape, then so be it. I'd eat it and enjoy it. This is microwaved fast food made from overprocessed ingredients in a factory - and I'd take the gelatin from a pig's foot over something that probably lists more ingredients than I care to read. Sure, most soup dumplings in nyc are not made from ingredients of the highest quality, but most places (or at least the good ones) make their own dumplings and steam them to order.
either way, this looks platic and disgusting.
Soup_Dumpling at 5:28PM on 01/31/08
not comparing the two as food substances, but how they came into existence. both as novelties, both gimicks.
other than use of the microwave, which seems questionable I agree, we don't know how it is prepared or what the ingredients are. According to the creator it doesn't have "weird stuff" that you wouldn't want to eat.
I'm not going to eat one; you're not going to eat one; but Adam has wanted to try one for years and he got one and I'm happy for him and I thought it was a drag that the pizza cone comments of the previous post and here were so down on it. Seemed like he was just having fun, and I work a ton and need to laugh sometimes.
I really am sorry it upset you so and I apologize if I offended you with the comparison to the soup dumpling.
I want xiǎolóngbāo for dinner now, pizza cone.
intheyearofthepig at 5:49PM on 01/31/08
I don't particularily care for microwaved food, but come on, who doesn't love melted cheese in a crispy crust? If you say no, you can't eat dairy or you are a liar. Either way, it makes you someone who shouldn't be trusted.
It reminds me of a fast food version of "the dome" that gets made at a joint here. All the toppings are put in a ceramic bowl and crust over the top for baking. When it's done it gets turned out. Perfect deep dish every time, nothing burnt, no raw dough, just cheesy saucey greatness.
8ptstars at 7:06PM on 01/31/08
hmmm... someone who's more learned in kitchen science could probably answer this, but I'm wondering if there's baker's ammonia in the pizza cone -- so it stays crisp despite the sauce?
onedaylingers at 11:42PM on 01/31/08
I remember these pizza cones in Japan too. They are sold in the bottom of a second rate department store in the Ginza. THe cones are frozen and pass through a conveyer type oven with a lighted window after being filled with your choice of toppings.
rawumami at 4:57AM on 02/01/08
While it looks like the sushi that is wrapped in plastic and shaped into a cone (temaki) that you find at convenience stores, it makes eating sushi while walking a lot easier. Not sure if the same can be said for pizza.
I don't like pizza, but I think I'd try it just to try it....although I'm the type of person that always ends up with ice cream dripping off the sides and eventually the bottom of my cone. :(
Kudos to the guy who had a dream, the initiative, and the guts to do it!
Cassaendra at 8:42AM on 02/01/08
I would like to thanks Adam for coming by following his curiosity; it's been 4 years of waiting for him.
As for the comments regarding the cones. We know that there are people who will always "resist" trying anything new in the name of tradition and purity; we know that some eat food only out of plates; the cones will initially not appeal for those.
Now, I don’t I see too many people protesting against Tuna salad in a pita, (this is far from being a traditional Middle Eastern dish), why? Because it taste good and it is convenient. So does with the cones. We are not here to eliminate or call “war” on the thin crust NYC pizza, we developed this product as an additional tasty and convenient method to carry the food YOU like on he go.
This is not about shoving bad food down someone stomach, the cone should be judged as a new vessel that will compliment any type of food, this is not about just pizza. Like Cosi and the flat bread, Chipotle and the tortilla and the deli with Panini, this is only about delivering your choice of food in a drip and mess free method.
The quality of what inside the cone is subjected to the standard of the vendor you order from, like with bagel, wraps or Panini it is about the product in (or between) the breads. Cone is bread.
I have no doubt that in 2 years from now the cones will be one of your choices at the deli or you favorite eatery and you will be able to order your eggs and ham in a wrap, Panini, bagel, pita, hero or a CONE.
And no, there is no ammonia in the crust, the dough is made from the same ingredients your pizza is made of. I'm a chef not a food scientist I've been working on this for the last 5 years to ensure the quality of this product.
The cones bake to perfection in any type oven (and are served out of one). What makes them special is that they COULD be warmed in a micro without losing their crispiness due to the method they were baked at the bakery.
I hope this will ease your mind regarding Adams nose and his general health following his cone tasting.
niradar at 10:38AM on 02/01/08
I saw this over the summer in Israel in a lot of places but I never ventured in to try it. The ones there looked like they were sitting in the window all day and didnt look very appetizing. I will def. say its an AWESOME and BRILLIANT idea - is there any way to incorporate this into a vending system? If so, please get in touch with me!!!!
PotentialGold at 1:43PM on 02/01/08
yes, we have the technology to place then in to a vending platform. please contact me through our crispycones.com site
niradar at 4:40PM on 02/01/08
Hey Adam!
Too cool. I'm going to write to Nir to try one too.
Deb
hereandthe at 5:09PM on 02/05/08