Pizzeria Bianco Mops the Floor with Mozza
Editor's note: If you read the Dear Slice letter yesterday from homeslice Lance R. asking for New York pizza-eating advice, you'll remember he mentioned a piece he wrote for us about Pizzeria Bianco in Phoenix. I forgot to run it when he sent it in. But here it is. No worse for the delay, I might add. Lance, sorry about spacing this; I'm an asshat. —The Mgmt.

Sorry about the quality of the pics, I was too giddy about the food to focus. Anyway, here's the rundown. My friend Mat and I are in the same pizza obsession club with you, but let us first state our credentials. Together, we've tried 30 or so pizza places in Los Angeles where we live (Village Pizza on Larchmont and Mozza are the current title holders). I've done a lot of Chicago pizza, and he grew up in NY and recently went to Italy (and had the best pie of his life). After hearing all this Bianco/Mozza talk from Ed Levine and others, we decided we needed to know the truth for ourselves.
So we decided to compare them. We started with a decent breakfast that would tide us over until 5 p.m., then headed to the airport for a 12:45 p.m. flight from LAX to Phoenix. We arrived at 2 p.m. and took a cab to Pizzeria Bianco. Three hours later we were inside. Chris Bianco was working behind his counter with a focused look (or scowl, depending on how you see it) on his face that would immediately break into a smile the second he began to talk to a customer. We ordered two pizzas for appetizers, two for the main course.
Let me discuss them in order.
Round One

The white pizza was up first. The menu says that it's made with fresh mozzarella, Parmigiano-Reggiano, ricotta, and arugula. It does not mention the mind-blowing olive oil dripping from every bite. The pizza is incredible. Everything is ridiculously fresh. The trip is worth it already. After a few more slices, we move on to...

The Sonny Boy. Salami, olives, sauce, and more of that amazing fresh mozzarella. Mozza has a pizza just like this one with salami from Batali's dad. Bianco's salami is thicker than I expected, but it's just as good. More important, the pizza itself is better than the one at Mozza. Perfect sauce, just the right amount of cheese. Bianco makes amazing pizza. We polish the two pies off pretty quickly, and get ready for...
Round Two

The Wiseguy (wood-roasted onion, house-smoked mozzarella, fennel sausage) and the plain Margherita pizza (pictured at top). If ever there was a contrast between two pies, this is it. The Wiseguy is loaded with sausage, cheese, and onions that we could smell roasting from outside. We decide to go with the Margherita first because we're afraid the Wiseguy will overwhelm it. On the first bite we both just stare at the pizza. It's a very strange moment. Then we look at each other and confer. It's the best piece of pizza we've ever had in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Italy, Michigan, or anywhere else.
I was eager to move on to the Wiseguy. Sausage and onions are usually my toppings of choice. There's so much flavor on that pizza that it's hard to describe. The onions are otherworldly, the sausage perfectly seasoned. But it was somewhat overwhelming because we had already had nine pieces of pizza each. I need to have a Wiseguy first, not last, to truly judge it. That said, we polished off both pies.
When it was over, we asked if we could have a picture with "The Bianco," as we were calling him by that point. The waiter said it was no problem. We told Chris we flew in just to eat, and he was very appreciative, but you could also tell that people do it all the time. He invited us back behind the oven, and we took a picture. He couldn't have been a nicer guy. Just a great, great guy. An hour later, we were on a plane back to Los Angeles, half giddy and half in a food coma. It was one of the greatest days in my life.
Going the Distance
Before we went to Bianco, I wondered what would make a guy want to make the same six pizzas five days a week. It's all very clear now. Chris is more a part of his restaurant than any chef I have ever seen. Every bit of that place feels like an extension of him, from the food to the decor—even the service. He makes you feel like you're a friend and he's just cooking for you. And he just happens to be a master chef.
About two-thirds into the meal, I became very sad that Pizzeria Bianco is so far from L.A., and then I got angry—about Mozza. Not so much the place itself, but the hype around it from Ed Levine and everyone else. Mozza is great. I love the crust there, as much as if not more than Bianco's. But all those people who talk about Mozza not being "real pizza" have an argument—and the place is a little overpriced and inconsistent.
Chris Bianco makes pizza in its purest form, and it is unlike anything I've ever tasted. I don't know if it's the quality of the ingredients or the way he puts them together, but Pizzeria Bianco mops the floor with Mozza in not only taste, but in experience. It also lays waste to every other pizza I've ever had. This won't stop me from going to Mozza (a lot) or any other pizza place in the future, but it does mean that I'll be going to Phoenix every six months or so. And it means that you need to get your ass on a plane to Phoenix ASAP.
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28 Comments:
Lance: Yet another report from Bianco, and I have yet to eat there myself. I need to get on the travel sites and see how cheap a ticket I can get out there for a weekend.
Adam Kuban at 10:49AM on 06/12/08
Your sad because you live in LA? Imagine how I feel living in NY. With the dame gas prices I can't drive there this year.
robert40 at 12:29PM on 06/12/08
Holy hot ovens, batman! That actually looks like pizza. Good for you, Phoenix, and may the kitchen gods bless Chris Bianco. Wish I'd known about this joint on my last AZ excursion...
missginsu at 12:57PM on 06/12/08
that is exactly how i felt when went to una pizza napoletana the first time............his pizza is on another level......
southlake98 at 2:38PM on 06/12/08
Hitting Napoletana on July 5th. Can't wait to compare the two.
Lance Roberts at 2:41PM on 06/12/08
@Lance: You'll have the Trinity of celebrated new-school pizzadom under your belt after the UPN visit. (Mozza, PB, UPN)
Adam Kuban at 3:57PM on 06/12/08
You all in NYC don't know how good you have it, compared to the crap we have in LA. Another poster gave his 5 best places in LA. There was Mozza with it's wood burning oven, absolutely the best out here, and then 4 slice joints, all with Baker's Pride or similar ovens, none coming close to all the wood-coal burning places you have. I'll make the trek to Phoenix one of these days, but I look forward to my quickie NYC vacations where I pig out on great pizza.
pizzafreak at 7:55PM on 06/12/08
@pizzafreak -- those are actually my picks. There's a couple wood burning places (Antica in Marina Del Rey, Il Capriccio in Hollywood, Bollini's in Monterey Park), but for whatever reason (mostly sauce and cheese) I don't think they're as good as the Baker's Pride places I suggested. To put things in perspective, if Bianco is a 10 on the global pizza scale and Mozza is 8.5, the rest of my list (Vito's, Joe's, Village, Casa Bianca) are all 5s. But better a 5 than no pizza at all.
Lance Roberts at 8:13PM on 06/12/08
Its fantastic that pizza fanaticism lives in LA...Antica in MDR makes delicious pies...made by the official VPN rep here in LA,Pepe Mieli...my only issue here is that the crusts,though delicious, get soggy in the middle.Ive ordered them extra well done but they still droop...Bollini's caught my eye and will have to journey out to the land of dim sum to check it out...A fresh mozz pie at Joe's yesterday was deliciosly creamy,crisp and spicy!Lance, no way that pie was a 5...I luv Mozza but its a different style...artisanal...Joe's makes a great pie...
L.A. Pizza Maven at 11:28AM on 06/13/08
@LA Pizza Maven, I really like Joe's (not as crazy about Antica but I know a lot of folks are). I'm not trying to bang on Joe's by giving it a five. The fresh pie is indeed really good. I'm just comparing it to the best pizzas I've ever had -- the top of the mountain. By LA standards, Joe's is probably 8 or 9, with Mozza at top at 10. If you like Antica you'll probably like Bollini's. Enjoy my friend...
Lance Roberts at 12:43PM on 06/13/08
I trained at Antica and really do like their pizza. The big frustration with authentic Neapolitan pies is that they do get soggy in the middle - partly to do with the short cook time and mostly to do with the use of fresh mozzarella (made in house can be VERY creamy - weeping milk!!) or mozzarella di bufala - even more milky. I always tell people that VPN pies are a knife and fork affair. We've solved a lot of that issue by doing a fine dice on the fior di latte and letting it drain for a day. I've not had UPN so I can't compare. I've had Bianco and it is amazing.
canerosso at 8:46PM on 06/13/08
Lance, you mention the mind blowing olive oil at Bianco's and I agree. It is simply the best olive oil I've tasted. I could eat Bianco's country bread with olive oil every day and be happy. I asked the server the source of the olive oil and it is from the Queen Creek Olive Mill. Locally grown and pressed, the oil is a blend of several varietals. I was born and raised in Phoenix and had no idea that the worlds best (IMO) olive oil was right in my own backyard. I recommend you check out their website: www.queencreekolivemill.com.
Darrin at 11:37AM on 06/14/08
Since yahoo picked up this story anyone read the comments now over 1000? Pretty scary stuff! The age of the Internet. At least before we were not exposed to the mass @%$&% of society. LOL
http://food.yahoo.com/blog/sliceamerica/8380/the-best-pizza-in-the-u-s;_ylt=AvdnjB3WtN7xcU4s2jTsMuJeY.Y5
robert40 at 2:40PM on 06/19/08
thanks for that yahoo link (even though i lost braincells reading some of the posts). i never understand why so many people get so passionate about something they know nothing about or haven't experienced (i.e. some guy in arizona making good pizza? hell no, i'm italian so i know that you can't get better than sbarro. this bianchi guy must have paid his pr firm a lot for that article.)
my favorite themes:
i'm italian so i know pizza
that pizza sucks, the best is _____ national chain
that pizza sucks, the best is _____ that i grew up eating
i'm from new york and there is no way this pizza is better than what you get at any pizzeria in the city.
sloppy at 4:36PM on 06/19/08
Sloppy, Your so right and could not agree more. If I read all of those ridiculous comments I would have went post office on my PC.
robert40 at 5:48PM on 06/19/08
Next time you go there try the Rosa pizza. It has crushed pistachios, unbelievable. The pizza just isn't great, it's the whole experience. After dinner the wife said she had the best latte she's ever had. It just goes back to the freshest ingredients available. Can't wait to go back.
gotj1 at 11:31PM on 06/22/08
I've actually gone back twice and you're so right about the Rosa. Even funnier, it's my wife's favorite, as well. I kind of dragged her there and when we left she gave a 10 minute dissertation on why Bianco is a master.
Lance Roberts at 11:39PM on 06/22/08
Just adding a special mention for an appetizer. The spiedini which is fontina cheese wrapped in proscuitto it's amazing. Glad you like the Rosa Lance.
gotj1 at 1:28AM on 06/27/08
When my family and I traveled to Phoenix last year, we wanted to try Pizzeria Bianco, but were scared away by the long wait. I found a review for Pizzeria Bianco on the internet that suggested I try another place--Classic Italian Pizza in Tempe. This restaurant is tucked away in a fr corner of a strip mall. The pizza was great! We sat on their patio and had a great dinner. So, if the wait at Pizzeria Bianco is too long, try Classic Italian Pizza. You will not be disappointed. (Classic Italian Pizza, 1030 E Baseline Rd # 156, Tempe, AZ - (480) 345-8681)
l4short at 5:32PM on 07/06/08
I used to eat at Classic Italian Pizza when I went to ASU...I'm not saying how long ago that was, but it was called something else back then. We mostly went for the cheap spaghetti back then, but they did have some good pizza too. Then again, what did we know all those years ago? The meatball sandwiches were great too!!
Carolina de Witte at 3:30AM on 07/07/08
Just got back from another visit. The Wiseguy is incredible, I was wrong the first time around. Fennel sausage like you've never tasted perfectly paired with sweet onions. Incredible. My revised order of preference is: Margherita, Wiseguy, Rosa, the White, Sonny Boy (salami and olives).
Lance Roberts at 4:43AM on 07/26/08
Is that fennel sausage cooked before it goes on the pizza and into the oven? When I was there it seemed done just right.
raoulduke at 1:59PM on 07/28/08
The two times I've been we have gone on Tuesday around 4pm and we have been seated right at five with no issues. So next time you visit you can give it a try. Also, they take reservations for 6-10 people so if you have a party you can go that route.
gotj1 at 11:02PM on 08/09/08
If you hit a weekday, 4PM often works. Not for Saturdays.
Re: reservations. They do accept them, but the waiting list is 2-3 months.
Lance Roberts at 3:54AM on 08/10/08
My brother lives in Chandler, AZ. Bianco is 20 minutes away. Grimaldi's is down the street. No cramped apartment. What's wrong with this picture?
gmarceau at 7:59PM on 08/19/08
I finally got to Bianco tonight. Had the wiseguy, as well as slice of a fig and prosciutto pizza. Worth the hype.
kaszeta at 11:59PM on 10/29/08
@kaszeta Congrsts on your Pizzeria Bianco visit. I did not see a fig and proscuitto on their online menu. Does he serve specials or did you construct that pie yourself?
Thanks,
Paulie Gee
pauliegee at 10:19AM on 10/30/08
I completely agree. I have pretty much set up my life so I live within 10 minutes of the best pizza places in the country. My parents live 5 minutes from Pizzeria Bianco (which is great because we can go home during the 2.5 hour wait), now I live in LA 10 minutes from Mozza, and I went to college in New Haven. New Haven pizza is only good if you don't get too many toppings because then it becomes limp and soggy (although clam and bacon at Pepe's is totally worth the trade-off), Mozza has more innovative and complicated toppings than Pizzeria Bianco, but Pizzeria Bianco proves that sometimes less is more.
None of Chris's pizza creations have too many toppings for the crust to support and all of the flavors combine brilliantly (although when we get the Wise Guy, we get reg mozz instead of smoked because we all hate smoked cheese, no matter what Bianco might say). The Rosa at Bianco might be my favorite dish of all time, it is nothing short of culinary perfection.
chasgoose at 4:58PM on 11/13/08