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I saw this story on Yahoo! Food and thought that you might be interested. I read this story on the best pizza in america how can you say best in the US when you have not tasted the best you go to popular cities looks like all on the east coast oh ya you may have tried Calf. Well guess what there are 50 states so you should try them all before you say the best in the US Your list of states does not ever include all 50 so how can you say the best. Well open your eyes and look at a map and wow you will discover there is a state called Oregon ........ In Oregon there is the best pizza I have ever had and its at the Flying Pie on SE Stark st. in Portland, Or its not a large place but its the best..... its been there for years and I have taken many of people there that say they have to best in there town then they taste Flying Pie and cant wait to come back oh ya its not cheep. So don't forget your Visa or Master Card... that is if your really into finding the best you will try the best .....
Dear Maryann,
I actually have heard of Portland, Oregon! It may surprise you to learn that I once lived in that beautiful city. Not for very long, granted (and sometimes I wonder why I ever left), but I did try Flying Pie on one occasion. This was a few years before I would eventually start Slice, so I didn't take good notes on the experience or photos. I remember it as having good slices—and that you could actually get the pizza by the slice there.
It may also surprise you to learn that I have actually had a piece of pizza from every pizzeria in America.
Just kidding!
Oh, and one of the Slicesters was just out in Portland, visiting Apizza Scholls.
I find it odd that people are so critical. This isn't the NY Times (or what the NYT was 20 years ago). There's no west coast bureau chief chasing down every lead/slice. It's an accumulative experience, and the site generously incorporates notes from very unproven sources/palates, as long as their written/photographed decently. You want Oregon on the Pizza Map? Write a frackin' review!
All California pizzerias are automatically disqualified... Because that's where bullshit pizza was born. By bullshit I mean pineapple and other awful stuff. You see cans of Dole pineapple stacked up, not cans of imported tomato sauce
To get anything decent there you have to pay through the nose at some kind of Wolfgang Puck place and I'll bet slices are all but unknown.
It's not just the toppings that make Cali pizza b.s. (and I'm from Cali). It's the crust.. it's soft, and doughy, lacking the real chaw and blistering I need to have on my pizza.. you can't just throw a bunch of random ingredients on top of refrigerator biscuits and call it pizza. The only great pizza I've ever had in California, was from the old Valentino's in Reedley.. they are still around, but I don't think the original family owns it or runs it..
I think reading this hurt my brain too. I've gotten about 1500 emails, many recommending pizzerias not just from the 50 states but from around the world, but not one ever mentioned "Flying Pie". You'd think if it was really the best we'd have heard of it by now. And it's not location. I've probably gotten 15 recommendations for ApizzaScholls. The website of Flying Pie is one huge red flag. Zero photos of the food is red flag #1. The menu is red flag #2. Pardon me if I don't hop the next flight out.
I teach college and grade lab reports on a weekly basis. Her command of the English language is now commonplace. It's amazing to me that people can write something on paper and not realize that if they read it out loud, it would sound like jibberish.
I'm not much for pineapple either, but just as Italian pizza makers utilize ANY italian topping THEY consider appropriate such as baby eels, cured strips of pork fat, rendered pork lard, sauteed dandelions, even tripe; I think American pizza makers should have the same opportunities. And since the USA is so diverse, so should be their choice of toppings. I can't stand Hawaiin pizzas, but MILLIONS love them. With so much snobbery involved in the food industry, it would be nice if pizza was exempt.
PS: IMPORTED tomatos are NOT superior in every case. In fact, I find it hard to believe that important san maranzano tomatoes would win a taste test if the names were hidden. American tomatoes, especially canned are FAR SUPERIOR, IMO, than imported Italian. Crafted italian food products such as cold cuts are still superior to their american counterparts but raw food products, such as tomatoes, flour,etc are ever bit as good in america as they are in Italy, I I have worked in both places over the last 40 years.
Yeah, millions love McDonald's too. That doesn't make it good. Perhaps I should replace the pineapple in my next pina colada with pepperoni, eh? Hey! How about cherries on pizza? Maybe blackberries? Pizza is still sort of, you know, Italian-based. So no, American pizza makers shouldn't have the same opportunities. I guess it...is...possible to invent a wholey American flatbread that could conceivably have pineapple on it. Get goin'.
what?! adam, you haven't tried good pizza until you've also been to my favorite place in guam if it's still open they have a different special pie every day i liked the roasted veggie one back then i was vegetarian. hope you make it coz you'd really be missing out if you don't.
Well, then I guess spaghetti and meatballs is also an abomination. As well as manicotti.....not to mention pasta y fagiole reheated before eating...... How about dumping tomatoes all together from ANY recipe italian, as well as peppers, get rid of polenta while your at it too, THAT is not originally Italian, so in some way, get rid of that too...............
Oh by the way, pineapple is served IN MANY TAVOLA CALDAS and pizzerias in NAPLES, the amalfi coast, as well as ROME.
Pizza is Pizza REGARDLESS of the toppings, NO MATTER HOW SILLY.
It may not float your boat, but new toppings are introduced everyday.
Kinda like when the first Italian did the utterly nauseating, placing the NEW WORD TOMATO on a pizza......Can you imagine the audacity??
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I saw this story on Yahoo! Food and thought that you might be interested. I read this story on the best pizza in america how can you say best in the US when you have not tasted the best you go to popular cities looks like all on the east coast oh ya you may have tried Calf. Well guess what there are 50 states so you should try them all before you say the best in the US Your list of states does not ever include all 50 so how can you say the best. Well open your eyes and look at a map and wow you will discover there is a state called Oregon ........ In Oregon there is the best pizza I have ever had and its at the Flying Pie on SE Stark st. in Portland, Or its not a large place but its the best..... its been there for years and I have taken many of people there that say they have to best in there town then they taste Flying Pie and cant wait to come back oh ya its not cheep. So don't forget your Visa or Master Card... that is if your really into finding the best you will try the best .....
17 Comments:
You handle that one very graciously.
Gotta love the run on sentences.
jessicarae at 10:31AM on 07/30/08
Me fail English, thats unpossible.
ESNY1077 at 10:59AM on 07/30/08
That hurt my brain.
Keith W. at 12:35PM on 07/30/08
I find it odd that people are so critical. This isn't the NY Times (or what the NYT was 20 years ago). There's no west coast bureau chief chasing down every lead/slice. It's an accumulative experience, and the site generously incorporates notes from very unproven sources/palates, as long as their written/photographed decently. You want Oregon on the Pizza Map? Write a frackin' review!
canonizer at 12:39PM on 07/30/08
Wonder if she's been to Phoenix...
Lance Roberts at 4:23PM on 07/30/08
All California pizzerias are automatically disqualified... Because that's where bullshit pizza was born. By bullshit I mean pineapple and other awful stuff. You see cans of Dole pineapple stacked up, not cans of imported tomato sauce
To get anything decent there you have to pay through the nose at some kind of Wolfgang Puck place and I'll bet slices are all but unknown.
gaffer at 4:45PM on 07/30/08
It's not just the toppings that make Cali pizza b.s. (and I'm from Cali). It's the crust.. it's soft, and doughy, lacking the real chaw and blistering I need to have on my pizza.. you can't just throw a bunch of random ingredients on top of refrigerator biscuits and call it pizza. The only great pizza I've ever had in California, was from the old Valentino's in Reedley.. they are still around, but I don't think the original family owns it or runs it..
cambriana at 9:32PM on 07/30/08
I think reading this hurt my brain too. I've gotten about 1500 emails, many recommending pizzerias not just from the 50 states but from around the world, but not one ever mentioned "Flying Pie". You'd think if it was really the best we'd have heard of it by now. And it's not location. I've probably gotten 15 recommendations for ApizzaScholls. The website of Flying Pie is one huge red flag. Zero photos of the food is red flag #1. The menu is red flag #2. Pardon me if I don't hop the next flight out.
varasano at 10:13PM on 07/30/08
I teach college and grade lab reports on a weekly basis. Her command of the English language is now commonplace. It's amazing to me that people can write something on paper and not realize that if they read it out loud, it would sound like jibberish.
benlee at 1:19PM on 07/31/08
I'm not much for pineapple either, but just as Italian pizza makers utilize ANY italian topping THEY consider appropriate such as baby eels, cured strips of pork fat, rendered pork lard, sauteed dandelions, even tripe; I think American pizza makers should have the same opportunities. And since the USA is so diverse, so should be their choice of toppings. I can't stand Hawaiin pizzas, but MILLIONS love them. With so much snobbery involved in the food industry, it would be nice if pizza was exempt.
PS: IMPORTED tomatos are NOT superior in every case. In fact, I find it hard to believe that important san maranzano tomatoes would win a taste test if the names were hidden. American tomatoes, especially canned are FAR SUPERIOR, IMO, than imported Italian. Crafted italian food products such as cold cuts are still superior to their american counterparts but raw food products, such as tomatoes, flour,etc are ever bit as good in america as they are in Italy, I I have worked in both places over the last 40 years.
gabagool at 1:05PM on 08/01/08
Yeah, millions love McDonald's too. That doesn't make it good. Perhaps I should replace the pineapple in my next pina colada with pepperoni, eh? Hey! How about cherries on pizza? Maybe blackberries? Pizza is still sort of, you know, Italian-based. So no, American pizza makers shouldn't have the same opportunities. I guess it...is...possible to invent a wholey American flatbread that could conceivably have pineapple on it. Get goin'.
Summerfield at 3:51PM on 08/01/08
what?! adam, you haven't tried good pizza until you've also been to my favorite place in guam if it's still open they have a different special pie every day i liked the roasted veggie one back then i was vegetarian. hope you make it coz you'd really be missing out if you don't.
fileunderk at 4:01PM on 08/01/08
Well, then I guess spaghetti and meatballs is also an abomination. As well as manicotti.....not to mention pasta y fagiole reheated before eating...... How about dumping tomatoes all together from ANY recipe italian, as well as peppers, get rid of polenta while your at it too, THAT is not originally Italian, so in some way, get rid of that too...............
Oh by the way, pineapple is served IN MANY TAVOLA CALDAS and pizzerias in NAPLES, the amalfi coast, as well as ROME.
Pizza is Pizza REGARDLESS of the toppings, NO MATTER HOW SILLY.
It may not float your boat, but new toppings are introduced everyday.
Kinda like when the first Italian did the utterly nauseating, placing the NEW WORD TOMATO on a pizza......Can you imagine the audacity??
gabagool at 10:08AM on 08/02/08
How many? Anyway, they're probably catering to Californians. Many Californians go to Italy every year. I don't know how many, exactly, but many.
Summerfield at 1:53PM on 08/04/08
This thread is starting to make my head hurt.....
sloppy at 4:23PM on 08/04/08
Sorry. Eat two slices and call me in the morning.
Summerfield at 10:16AM on 08/05/08
Thanks. I think I will take your advice as soon as lunchtime rolls around.
sloppy at 10:58AM on 08/05/08