Slice vs. Vice: Stone-Coal WRONG

Posted by Adam Kuban, October 15, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Best-of lists are opinions, and opinions are like assholes—everybody's got one. Am I right? But there's opinion and then there's fact.

Sometimes folks come down with some wack stuff that mixes opinion and so-called fact, getting us all to the point where we don't know what to believe. That's when Slice pulls out the truth hammer and gives someone a knock on the skull with it.

Witness Vice magazine's statement about Lee's Tavern from that pizza list we mentioned yesterday: "Their coal-oven pizzas surpass the vaunted Lombardi’s and just about every other place we’ve tried."

Let's break it down.

Opinion: "... pizzas surpass the vaunted Lombardi’s and just about every other place we’ve tried"
So-Called Fact: "Their coal-oven pizzas ... "
Cold, Hard Fact: Lee's Tavern, for as awesome as it looks, has a standard gas-fired oven

To be gettin' Slice all excited about some coal-fired oven we thought we'd somehow overlooked all these years, only for us to call the pizzeria and find out it ain't so, that, my friends, is a serious DON'T.

Oh, and Two Boots? Seriously?

Lee's Tavern

60 Hancock Street, Staten Island NY 10305 (at Garretson Street; map)
718-667-9749

12 Comments

Tags: Best-Of Lists, Dongan Hills, Lee's Tavern, NYC, pizza lameness, Staten Island, truth hammer

12 Comments:

VICE JUST GOT PWND

Raphael at 6:11PM on 10/15/08

Is Vice JimInHolland's new site?

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

pauliegee at 6:56PM on 10/15/08

Adam, way to go with the smackdown! that blogger deals with da Truth like john mcCain.. still dyin for a great slice

L.A. Pizza Maven at 11:24PM on 10/15/08

For shame!

You told them.

Laurel E at 10:26AM on 10/16/08

I'll admit that I clicked on the tag "truth hammer" hoping to see other examples of Adam meting out justice, and was sad to find that this is the only one.

Keith W. at 11:34AM on 10/16/08

Keith W.: Even the greatest of journeys begins with a single step ;)

Adam Kuban at 12:08PM on 10/16/08

Whack 'em and stack 'em, Adam.

Summerfield at 1:48PM on 10/16/08

Hey guys the Vice comment about the coal oven @ lee's is not correct but your not correct either. I don't know who called or who they spoke to but lee's does have a brick oven and always has.

pizza321 at 4:50PM on 10/26/08

@pizza321: Trying to whack the Truth Hammer, are you? ;) I called Lee's and talked to them. They said they do not have a coal-fired oven. They may have a brick oven, but it's not fired with coal. There's a difference. You can have a brick oven fired with gas, wood, or coal -- or even oil in some rare instances. But Lee's said they did not have a coal oven.

Adam Kuban at 8:41AM on 10/27/08

It certainly looks like a standard deck gas oven in the Bridge and Tunnel Club shot of their kitchen. If they use an additional brick oven, it's surely not to be found in those photos. You'd think they would have captured it. Perhaps as Ed Levine suggests in Slice of Heaven, they place a brick in there.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

pauliegee at 9:24AM on 10/27/08

Yeah. I peeked into the kitchen on Saturday, and saw the same set-up in the BnT Club set of photos. A standard gas-oven, lined with bricks, I'm sure.

Adam Kuban at 10:16AM on 10/27/08

Love everyone's enthusiasm on the topic. The correction or maybe more a distintiction (wasn't being harsh, just playful) I was making was that the oven @ Lee's is a brick oven. It is absolutley gas lined with bricks, that is correct. You guys are terrific fun. I thought by the mention of "standard gas oven" you didn't realize it was brick. The smack down is all yours. Enjoy. :)
LOL

pizza321 at 4:14PM on 10/27/08

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