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Thoughts from Di Fara First-Timers

"I just wished that the slice hadn't been quite so oily; I felt as if I had to slurp through a puddle before getting to the true, vibrant flavors."

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As promised earlier today, here are the quick-and-dirty notes from the Di Fara first-timers I led on our Midwood expedition earlier today.

We ordered a plain round pie, a plain square pie, and a special artichoke pie (round). Total damage: $85 big ones!

Alaina Browne, Serious Eats general manager

Alaina BrowneAdam told us to meet there at 11:30 a.m., so I assumed that's what time the pizzas start coming out of the oven. I got there almost fifteen minutes early, and there were already 4 people in line outside the closed storefront, which didn't open until noon. As soon as the doors opened, Adam got our order for 3 pies in and we watched Dom at work, while the small space started filling with pizza smoke. When our pizzas arrived, a hush fell over our table as we all dug in. The plain round and plain square were completely different pizzas, but both delicious. The round pie's crust super thin and crisp around the edges. The square pie is a messy pile of tomato sauce and cheese, over a thicker crust good for absorbing all the fatty pizza juices. Worth the wait? Yes, at least once in a pizza lifetime.

I'm glad I no longer bear the shame of being a Di Fara virgin.

Grace Kang, Serious Eats intern

20090623-grace-peeps.jpgBased on today's experience, I think Di Fara is best with a group of friends and a couple of different pies. The friends both to keep you company and so you can also try a bunch of different toppings as cheaply as possible. While I really loved the pizza, I agree with Adam in that I think the plain pie crust on this trip was a little lacking. It felt flat and just didn't seem as dynamic as I expected it to be. A big part of the visit was watching Dom make the pies. Snipping the basil, spreading the dough just so over the peel, commiserating with the folks who sadly have "five pies ahead" of them, it all made for a good time. It also probably helped that we didn't have to wait two hours.

So, to sum up: good once-in-a-while experience (with a group and on a weekday morning). The end.

Robyn Lee, Serious Eats editor, A Hamburger Today editor in chief

Robyn LeeMy favorite part of the experience was watching Dom make the pies. It was almost zen-like; he made pizza-making look like the easiest thing in the world (of course, he's had enough practice), impressive considering the hot and humid atmosphere and the plumes of smoke whirling around the room. I particularly liked the finishing flourishes on the pie—the snipping of the basil, sloshing of olive oil, and sprinkling of grated cheese.

As for the pizza, the regular slice was my favorite (although I also liked the square pie and the artichoke pie). Crust was satisfyingly crisp and thin with a bit of chew, not too flimsy, not too hard, and toppings were nicely balanced. No complaints here. I don't think I'd be that happy waiting over an hour for this pizza, but I can see why it's special. I'd look forward to bringing other noobs to Di Fara, perhaps not just for myself.

Carey Jones, Serious Eats New York editor in chief

I'd expected to love Di Fara's pizza, but I hadn't expected to watch the man himself behind the counter. Though I knew Dom made every pie (working with Adam, one absorbs pizza lore through osmosis), I hadn't realized the entire operation was in full view. Watching him stretch the dough, drizzle (douse?) the pizzas in oil, and finish each one with a fistful of basil was like watching a monk lost in a ritual. He never looked up, never broke stride.

We tore apart the round pie. My first drippy bite didn't immediately dazzle me. In truth, I tasted the oil more than I did the pizza. It was only as I kept eating that I began to appreciate the milky pools of buffalo mozzarella, the secondary bite of the grana padano, the brightness of the tomato sauce, the fragrance of the basil. And the crust—the crust was incredible, thin and pliant with just a slight char. I just wished that the slice hadn't been quite so oily; I felt as if I had to slurp through a puddle before getting to the true, vibrant flavors. I'm no slice-dabber, but I prefer the taste of pizza to olive oil.

Steaming Square

I wouldn't say that I preferred the Sicilian, exactly, although after my first cut I reached back for more. I'm not usually a Sicilian fan, but most of the slices I've had seemed more like focaccia than pizza—bubbly, airy squares with a precarious slick of tomato and cheese on top. DiFara's square slices didn't resemble those in the slightest. The crust had real heft, with a dense, nutty bottom crust. The tomato sauce oozing over the edge developed an almost caramelized quality. And though I doubt it had any less oil than the round pizzas, the balance was better; it seeped into the crust, rather than pooling on top.

In the world of pizza, my loyalty ultimately falls to the Neapolitan-style pie, rather than the streetside slice; I like a bit more lift, a raised cornicione, that doughy chew. But I don't think I've ever had a better slice, in New York or anywhere else, than my round-pie slice at Di Fara. And I know I've never had a better cut of Sicilian.

My Own Observations

I figured we needed a plain round and plain square as benchmarks. Di Fara virgins should experience the purity of the baseline pies before going for toppings. But we did order one of the special artichoke pies. I am not a fan of the artichoke pie there myself (the 'chokes are often bitter, and the leaves that are exposed to the air often char too much in the oven heat), but it seems to be popular with many people, so I thought it might be a crowd-pleaser today.

I thought the crust was a little underwhelming today. It wasn't undercooked, but it seemed to be a little pale. It was also tougher and crisper than usual. And the whole "heavy hand" thing seems like it's getting a bit out of control. There's too much drip, too much goo going on. Lots of cheese and oil and sauce in the middle of the pie, leading to a lot of tip sag, and not enough coverage toward the end crust.

It's always interesting to take Di Fara noobs out there. When I was a noob myself, the only hype it had gotten was from Jim Leff's first book. I had never heard of the place, and there was no expectation—hyped or no—to live up to.

These days when I take firsties out there, I always worry that it won't stand up to the hype. We had an exceptionally easy time of it today, with Alaina getting there at 11:15 to hold down the line. We entered around noon and were the second group to place a whole-pie order. We left by 1 p.m. I do wonder what my colleagues would have thought if we had gotten there at peak time and had to endure a two-hour wait time in a very hot and smokey restaurant.

Related: Di Fara Pizza, All You Need to Know, 2009 Edition

18 Comments:

Correction: Carey was the first to arrive!

Nice round-up of the DiFara virgins. Nice having editors on hand as well!

Personally, I LOVE all the oil. It transforms the pizza into something luxurious and decadent.

Great post and I also loved hearing the reactions of the different SE folks.

I have read that Dominic pours oil on after the pizza is done? That is enough for me to avoid the place. No gratuitous oil is my policy. What makes it for me is pizza red hot out of the oven so it burns the roof of my mouth. Thin crust and some char. Some hot pepper flakes shaken ........ Any number of places will do this for me. I don't need to go to the best (DiFara) and get a warm or lukewarm pie with drizzled oil

But I have total respect for Dom still going strong at 73 or so. Can't keep a good man down

Where are the boy virgins?! ;) I love DiFara also (the plain is the best in NY), but I feel the same about the artichoke. I can't figure out why they're so bitter.

@Tia...well one boy virgin, "English" Nick Solares is on holiday....

I don't understand this whole zen thing with watching Dom make pies. I was there, and I watched him make 2 pies while waiting for mine. While I enjoyed my sausage square pie, and regular round cheese pie a great deal, the process of making the pie didn't look like anything special to me. The funny thing is that even people who don't make pizza themselves seem to appreciate the art that Dom is exhibiting. The only thing I can equate this sort of phenomenon to is Roger Federer hitting a forehand, but I appreciate that to the extent that I do only because I play tennis myself. The pizza is great, no doubt about it, but the whole "watching Dom work" thing seems a bit overrating in my opinion.

I took my girlfriend and my folks visiting from out of town to Di Fara's recently - it was all three of their first times. With the commute, the wait, and my own hyping up of the place, I was worried that they would be underwhelemed by the finished product. I couldn't really tell if any of them were enjoying the pizza while we were actually splitting the pie, but on the train ride back, with the collective experience in their minds, it seemed like everything clicked.

Take this experience and the actual product and compare it that of a place like Grimaldi's. Sure, the pizza there is fine, fine, fine, and you get your pizza in 15 minutes, but you can see the two pizzaolas in the center of the room banging out pizzas like they could do it in their sleep. Eating a Di Fara's pizza, you taste the fruits of Dom's fussing.

last two times i visited it seems to have slid a bit.
put me down as an artichoke pie lover.
wish i'd known you were there, i was 2 blocks away.
loved seeing the photos of the eaters, please continue this trend!

I appreciate the input/honest reviews. Thank you.

It's kind of obvious that some (majority ?) mentioned Mr. DeMarcos's craftsmanship and attention to detail.

To me, that's the essence of Italian cooking. The freshest and absolutely the best ingredients made with consideration/love for those about to partake.

@Cincinnatus That's the essence of just about any type of cuisine, no?

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

@Paulie You are correct. I just remember my Italian "Nana" - she loved fresh ingredients and her cooking was splendid as a result.

I hadn't been there either, until recently and Adam was shocked (and admittedly, I was embarrassed.

@Laren Great shot of Dom putting some serious love on your square pie.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

Check out my recent visit, I had a much different experience...

@steamsoldier yeah dude, we've all since your stuff. Remember that time Adam made fun of you for ordering a junky pie?

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