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Pizza Madness 2009: Los Angeles — Pizzeria Mozza and Antica Pizzeria

From the Slice inbox: "Waiting for your review of Mozza and Antica. Please get to it soon. Thanks. Pizzafreak" OK. Here you go, Pizzafreak. My blathering about "Pizza Madness 2009" continues ...The Mgmt.

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[Photographs: Adam Kuban]

Until I touched down at LAX on Thursday, October 29, most of my knowledge of Los Angeles came from CHiPs, The Rockford Files, the Terminator franchise, and The Closer. I had a feeling I'd be in for a shock.

It came pretty early. On the corner of Santa Monica Boulevard and North Crescent (straight-up 90210 territory), I saw both a Bentley Continental ragtop and a Lamborghini Murcielago filling up at a gas station. I was waiting for a bus. Instant loser.

Well, at the bus I boarded was up-to-date, clean, and cheap ($1.25 was the lowest fare I'd seen this whole trip). And it dropped me at the corner of Santa Monica and North Highland 20 minutes later. From there, it was only a short walk to Pizzeria Mozza.

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This was lunch, though it came at 3 p.m., which was about the best reservation for three I could get a single day in advance. I was meeting Slice West Coast contributor L.A. Pizza Maven and AHT L.A. burger dude Damon Gambuto. Some quick impressions of Mozza and Antica Pizzeria, after the jump.

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This is the only picture of the pizza I have at Mozza. L.A. Pizza Maven and Damon told me that they don't approve of photography at Pizzeria Mozza. Given the reports of celeb diners there, that's not surprising. But, really, even if Erik Estrada, James Garner, Ahnold, and Kyra Sedgwick were dining together, my focus would still be on the pizza. This is the sausage pie, by the way.

I knew Mozza was popular, but the place was still packed at 3 p.m. Though, as LAPM pointed out, you can usually walk in solo around lunchtime and get a seat at the bar. The empty seats there bore out this bit of wisdom.

We ordered three pies: a Margherita ($13); the Burricotta with Peperonata, Olive Taggiasche, and Oregano ($15); and the Fennel Sausage, Panna, Red Onion, and Scallion ($15; pictured above).

I had read plenty about Mozza—both rapturous praise and crazy dismissals—and figured I was prepared for it. Especially given the fact that I had now eaten at some of the best and reputedly best pizzerias in the West. Plus, after trying so many supposedly great pizzerias that people have gushed about, you start to weigh the raves differently and view them with more skepticism. I figured the quality of the pies at Mozza would be somewhere in the middle, pushing toward very good.

They were GREAT. The burricotta pie (burrata and ricotta cheeses mixed) was incredibly creamy. The sausage pie was fantastic, the meat was unlike any I'd had on this trip or before it—the typical fennel seed flavor was absent, in its place a slightly sagey, almost funky flavor. The Margherita was good but probably the least of my favorites of what I had. Still, it and the other two pies benefited enormously from the insane crust.

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It was easier to get a Mozza upskirt, since I could shoot, literally, from the hip, hiding the camera at waist level.

As others have said, it's more like sauce and toppings strewn across really good bread. I mean, even with the crappy photo above, you can see how INSANE that end crust (aka, the cornicione) is. It's crazy puffy, with various size bubbles and stretching in the hole structure, or crumb. With all the tangy, yeasty flavor you'd expect from a good bread.

My only complaint would be that the balance of the pies are weighted heavily in favor of the crust element. When there is a sauce on the pie, it's difficult to discern.

Pizzeria Mozza

641 North Highland Avenue, Los Angeles CA 90036 (at Melrose; map)
323-297-0101; mozza-la.com/pizzeria

Antica Pizzeria

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[Photograph: anticapizzeria.net]

Antica Pizzeria in Marina del Rey is a bit deceiving. I mean, it's on the second floor of a shopping mall (who finds good pizza in a shopping mall‽), but once inside, it's like a little piece of Italy (or what I'd imagine Italy to be, since I've yet to travel there).

So, yeah, who does find good pizza in a shopping mall? You, for one, if you find yourself there.

Very good pizza, but not amazingly mind-blowing. Before Pizzeria Mozza opened, seems like a lot of L.A.–based food blogs pegged Antica as the only pizza game in town. It's a VPN-certified pizzeria. In fact, Peppe Miele is the president of the American chapter of the Associazione Verace Pizza Napoletana. Aspiring VPN pizzerias must submit an application to Miele for certification, and Antica offers training sessions for Neapolitan-leaning pizza-makers.

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I visited Antica with L.A. Pizza Maven, who I'm grateful to for driving me around after my abortive attempt at using public transit in the City of Angels. (Thank you, thank you, thank you!)

I'm also grateful to LAPM for this tip at Antica: Order your pies well-done there. The pizzas we got—a half Margherita–half sausage ($13.50) and a Pizza Siciliana (eggplant, smoked mozzarella, basil, and chopped tomato; $13.50).

The Margherita crust here was as good as you'd want. Chewy, crisp enough to stand up to the sauce and cheese — likely from the extra time in the oven — and yeasty. And if I hadn't come from Pizzeria Mozza earlier in the day, I'd likely be more impressed with it than I was.

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The eggplant with smoked mozzarella was interesting and would probably have been more pleasing had I not been full on Mozza and the Antica Margherita. It's a rich pie and is probably best for sharing.

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And of, course, there's the upskirt. Not too bad lookin', is it?

Remember how I mentioned all those TV shows earlier? Well, the one thing they didn't prepare me for is HOW VAST L.A. IS. Sure, I knew that everyone drove there and that they spent vast amounts of time in their cars, but I just sort of assumed that that was because of gridlock. But, hell, even without traffic and driving at pretty fast clip down Santa Monica and I-405, it still took for-freaking-ever to get from Beverly Hills to Marina del Rey.

So I began to appreciate L.A. Pizza Maven's love of Antica. He lives nearby and frequents often. Plus, he said, for many years, it was the best thing going in L.A. pizzawise and sated his cravings on many a night and helped him fend off homesickness.

It's hard not to like a place when you've seen it through the eyes of a friend. So, even though the pies weren't in the same league as Mozza's, I did enjoy Antica.

See also: Antica Pizzeria: A Culinary Oasis in a Pizza Desert

Antica Pizzeria

13455 Maxella Avenue, #201, Marina del Rey CA 90292 (at Del Rey Ave.; map)
310-577-8182; anticapizzeria.net

19 Comments:

I've never tried any of those fancy places that serve little pizzas like the ones pictured. Do you have to eat them with knife and fork?

@ratbuddy: No. Not unless they don't cut the pies for you. And that is rare. Only three places I've been to didn't cut. Two in NYC (one now defunct) and one in Portland.

That cornicione on the Mozza Pizza does look very nice!

Quite humorous that the joint discourages photos because of the "celebrities"....I guess they are more important than us commoners

"With all the tangy, yeasty flavor you'd expect from a good bread".

I wouldn't call a yeasty flavor something that should be in good bread, but that's just my opinion.

Looks like a very nice 1-2 hit in LA for you Adam. What a great trip so far. Looking forward to Phoenix :) --K

@Adam: but even then, you're just cutting the slices, not so much eating them with a knife and fork

Gotcha. I just thought I had heard somewhere that neapolitan pizza gets soupy in the middle and can't be eaten like a normal pizza. Those pictures looked like it might be that style.

Whatever it is, they both look good.

Good review. As far as I am concerned, these 2 pizzerias are the only 2 in LA worth going to, and Antica is a looong drive for me. I don't go to any slice place here. One of the chowhounders here put it rather well when he said that Vito's which is one of the rave slice places here, would be just another decent slice place in NYC. I go to Mozza regularly, sit at the pizza bar, and love to watch the brigade assemble the pies, put them in the oven, and then watch the pizzaola do her thing. I may be wrong about this, but before the Osteria opened, Nancy Silverton was the pizzaola, and I think the pies were better then than they are now. If you want some company when you go to Phoenix, let me know. I fly in and join you. I'm looking forward to eating PB's pies, and if you want to do a Phoenix run similar to your West Coast adventures, I'm game for that also.

Thank you, thank you for this review! Lil and I will be living in Huntington Beach, CA for the month of January, and even though Antica is about an hour away and Mozza even more, I really needed to know that we'll be able to find some decent pizza somewhere. When we lived in L.A. in the eighties, there was nada.

We should probably hook up with pizzafreak and L.A. Pizza Maven before we travel...

Mozza has got a to go arm now that let's you taste their pizza w/o all the madness and waiting. I think it's the way to go.

Hey AK, it was a blast! A 2 pizzeria day is always special...my pleasure providing the taxi service..youd still be on a bus if you had to get to the Marina from BH...Yeah, that cornicine at Mozza is crazy...and yes, i like the Mozza 2 Go when you have the urge but have no res...

Antica is better than Mozza. It's easer to get into, the atmosphere is far more relaxed and, more importantly, the pizza is better.

I also didn't know to get my pizza well-done at Antica. I will have to try that next time. Fanks!

Hey, passion4pizza, when youre in LA feel free to contact me for any pizza info...MMMM..i think im goin to Antica right about now!

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@egadman: Yeah. For some reason lately, I've been seeing a lot of chatter about the interrobang on Twitter.

Mozza is very good not great but I will be back for another lunch and another round of pies and I will be checking out Antica soon as I am new to LA from AZ. When in Pheonix go to Grazie Pizzeria & Wine Bar in Old Town Scottsdale, it's better than Bianco-PERIOD. Get the Complemeti Alla Mamma and the Toscana. Enjoy and thanks

Antica seems a bit salty in the dough dept. for me and it is very "loose and sloppy" in the middle. Cant pick it up. Is that bad? For some yes, for others no. Still a nice pie in the neo fashion and truly authentic that way. So if you want that neo reality check, Antica is the way to go! Mozza however really is a WAY better crust. It is truly a fine artisan bread all by itself and that really is the brass ring for this type of pizza. Not many places can come up with a dough that hits that high point. And some very creative high end toppings that set it apart if you like that kind of thing.

But... My biggest beef for ANY pizza place is what I call "sloppy topping placement". I dont care if it's artisan mozza or dominos. I think evenly placed topping distribution is so important to the pie. Mozza and Antica are pretty much flinging the toppings on and sometimes you get a slice thats got one item out of three on it. WTF! Take the extra 30 seconds and distribute the toppings EVENLY!! This is a common problem in many a pizza place. I dont know if they think its cool that it is a sloppy assembly (like hand made) but ALL pizza is handmade. Im guessing more about cheaping out on the toppings. It takes more care to make it look perfect and have every slice and bite give you the toppings and melded tastes you ordered. And treating pizza with the care and love it deserves is what makes a superior product worth having again and again.

Enough already! Sorry for the sermon. Just got off on a pizza jag...

@pizza-inmymouth "But... My biggest beef for ANY pizza place is what I call "sloppy topping placement".

I agree somewhat,but in fairness to all the pizzaioli out there - the toppings can shift dramatically when slipping it into the oven.Some pizza makers do care and make each one with thought and pride,some also care more about their own limelight and don't give a shit .

@pizza-inmymouth...when I eat at Antica, and I was there weekly for about 8 years, i order it well done and that minimizes the "wet" center common to Neapolitan pies...Personally, I love their crusts,too...As for Mozza, Ive never been disappointed...great toppings even if irregularly placed is delicious and the crust definitely reflects Nancy's baker background..Ive ordered 2 pies to go and eaten 1 and a half in my car, turning into an absolute,f------in animal in the process.

Thanks for the pizza tips!

We tried Antica Pizzeria while out for the BCS championship game earlier this month. I may be a bit limited in my pizza experience but that was the best pizza we had ever had.

We had a Pizza Quattro Formaggi w/proscuitto and Pizza Calabrese.

The owner waited our table after we mentioned we heard of his place on slice. It was also really nice sitting outside enjoying the CA weather and a Crimson Tide NC.

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